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Matt Orsagh's avatar

When someone sees degrowth as enough of a threat to write a whole book about it ... I know I am on the right track.

https://degrowthistheanswer.substack.com/

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Vlad Bunea's avatar

From your description "The Degrowth Delusion" is full of delusions itself. Your quote:

"Many of us have had the same nagging feeling in the back of our minds: degrowth is nonsense. We know it instinctively. When someone tells us the solution to poverty is to make everyone poorer, alarm bells go off. When they claim the path to environmental sustainability requires dismantling the very systems that could deliver clean technologies at scale, our BS detectors start pinging. When they insist that human progress itself is the enemy, despite millennia of evidence to the contrary across every domain of concern, every fiber of our being rebels against such cynical and nihilistic rubbish."

This quote massively misrepresents degrowth. For a proper definition of degrowth see here:

https://timotheeparrique.com/wp-content/uploads/2025/01/Parrique-T.-2025.-Defining-degrowth-V1-1.pdf

Degrowth does not aim to make everyone poorer. Degrowth does not aim to dismantle all systems. Degrowth advocates the opposite of what Adam Dorr claims. Degrowth also attacks capitalism for its obsession with capital accumulation.

Another delusion:

"Superabundant clean energy and labor will allow us to solve virtually all of today’s environmental problems. Deforestation, desertification, habitat fragmentation and loss, overfishing, coral bleaching, eutrophication and hypoxic dead zones, ocean acidification, plastic pollution, biodiversity loss, endangered species, invasive species, air pollution, water pollution, soil erosion, soil contamination, and waste management—they will all become solvable over the next several decades."

We need these innovations NOW, not in decades. Technology has already FAILED us. Earth is already in ecological overshoot with all the great innovations we had. The problem is that many innovations were done for CAPITAL ACCUMULATION, not the improvement of the quality of life. Degrowth is calling for a SELECTIVE exnovation of ridiculous products (SUVs, fast fashion, industrial beef, etc etc) and focus on ecological innovation (healthcare, education, agroecology etc.) not for capital accumulation. It is a shame Adam Dorr wasted so much time to be on the wrong side of history.

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