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Karen Rivoire's avatar

There is a lot to consider with quantum physics with a closer connection to life, living systems and holism rather than planet first and people second as has been the case in sustainability for too long. Thank you. Is n’t this what regenerative economics is taking on?

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Thanks, John, this is very helpful, not least because you're integrating a lot of diverse ideas into a tighter aperture - and bringing them into an investigation space that deserves further observation, (or not, as it may be).

The idea of non-linear sustainability does feel increasingly relevant. System complexity appears to be moving faster than folks at the face of sustainable change can adequately process, let alone respond to.

Given the high level of demand you and GlobeScan identified for more radical agenda change (I'm comfortably among that 56%), this kind of work seems crucial - not as an end goal, but as a discipline for making better sense of transformative change. (I also liked Nicola's point about it being 'a practice-tested body of complexity science').

I've been exploring something in parallel through the lens of 'alchemy' - not as an entire end state, but as a way of naming an adaptive process for making sense of, and bringing about change that currently seems impossible.

Like you, I'm wary of this drifting into abstract mysticism or rejecting science. If it has value, it should be applied across science, markets, politics - while also pointing to the inner, relational and cultural shifts that technical solutions alone seem unable to carry.

Alchemy is by no means a perfect word - perhaps usefully so. It's interesting that it appears, in different forms, across both Eastern and Western traditions.

Either way, feels like we're scratching the surface.

I tried to explore this from a slightly different angle earlier this month, in case it's of interest:

https://open.substack.com/pub/theboyinthewildwood/p/a-meeting-by-the-river?utm_campaign=post-expanded-share&utm_medium=web

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